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Progressive Blackjack Rules. Progressive Blackjack is a standard version of Blackjack that has an optional side bet, usually costing £1/€1/$1 depending on the currency you are using. Whilst the important thing is to get as close to 21 as possible without going over, the same as standard Blackjack, the Progressive Jackpot side bet can give.


FOXWOODS BLACKJACK REPORT

By The Counter

The Counter is an experienced blackjack advantage player.

Foxwoods casino in Mashantucket, CT boasts the largest gaming complex in the word with three primary casinos: Grand Pequot (both high stakes blackjack casinos are inside this casino), Rainmaker, and Great Cedar. Blackjack in all low stakes areas use eight decks of cards with table minimums of $25. During slow periods $10/$15 tables can be found, but it is advisable to move up to the high stakes tables for a six-deck game.

The playing rules are consistent throughout the entire facility. Blackjacks pay 3 to 2, players can double on any first two cards, double after the split is allowed (except aces), dealer stands on all 17s, and you can split any pair (except aces) up to four hands (including tens, but only if want heat), and late surrender is available.

A player can wager money behind another player who is agreeable, but all decisions are up to the primary player. I find it annoying because of the added attention/scrutiny by the pit. Hence, most real players refuse to allow back play.

At a no mid-shoe entry game, this could be valuable for team play if an advantage player has reached the table maximum betting limit.

At some tables, they have the match the dealer side bet with either or both of the first two cards. Payouts are 4 to 1 one (unsuited), 8 to 1 (two unsuited), 10 to 1 (one suited), and 20 to 1 (two suited). Minimum bet is $1.00, maximum bet is $100.00. There are also some tables with the super 7 bet. It’s a $1.00 side bet that pays 3 to 1 for first 7, 50 to 1 for two 7s, 100 to 1 for same suited 7s, 500 to 1 for three 7s and 5000 to 1 for three suited 7s. However if you decide to split your 7s, unsuited 7s pay 50, and suited 7s pay 100.

Six-deck games can only be found in the two high stakes casinos located inside the Grand Pequot. Club Newport on the main gaming floor has $50 to $100 minimums with either $3000 or $6000 maximums, and the Stargazer casino on the 25th floor require a $100 to $200 minimum with table maximums at $6000 or $10, 000. If you require more, that’s not a problem at Foxwoods, because no action is too large for them.

The shuffle is also one of the most thorough in the world, a double riff, double ladder. However, the ending slug which is usually 1 to 1 ½ decks is placed on top of the discard tray at the end of the shoe. The dealer will also show the burn card and, if asked, will show 1-2-3-4-5 ending cards.

A favorable penetration (only 1 to 1 ½ deck cut off), the ability to spread 1 to 20 with little concern from the pit, makes this play the best on the east coast. But don’t be fooled; a very large bank roll is required and that still does not guarantee a win.

A two million square foot expansion is underway as a joint venture with the MGM group. It just keeps getting better.

THE COUNTER

BleedingChipsSlowly
$1 blackjack has arrived in my neck of the woods, Foxwoods, so I’ve been reading postings here and on other forums about the game which apparently has infested casinos everywhere. The 25-cent ante fee for Foxwoods tables was all I needed to hear to know the game is a MAJOR rip-off, but how bad is it? Specifics are hard to come by. Zoomie posting at BlackjackInfo.com estimates a house edge of nearly 19% for the 25-cent ante fee flavor. Can anyone provide the house edge for at least some of the many variations? Given the popularity of the game it might warrant some information on the Wizard of Odds site.
I saw something curious two weeks ago - an idle $5 table at Mohegan Sun at 10 am Saturday morning and empty seats at some of the other four tables. I haven’t seen idle $5 tables there since they closed the 12-$5-table pit years ago. I think the low-level players migrated to the $1 tables at Foxwoods. We like!

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Serious players curl their lips at the game and they should. However, if I were to take a noobie pal to Foxwoods I think the $1 table would be great fun. For about $25 dollars he (or she) could play a real casino table game for an hour! They could get FREE DRINKS! Never mind they would be getting screwed far worse than playing slots. Playing just like the big boys *cough* would be a great memory.
So, can some of the forum members with better math skills than I give us some stats on the $1 blackjack games being offered? My apologies if this has been done already and I missed it.
“You don’t bring a bone saw to a negotiation.” - Robert Jordan, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia
Asswhoopermcdaddy
Great for the casinos to bleed you dry. Low limits.for card counters.AP play but problematic for the drunkards. A great reel to lute martingalers.
Mission146


So, can some of the forum members with better math skills than I give us some stats on the $1 blackjack games being offered? My apologies if this has been done already and I missed it.


It just depends on the Rules. Just take the Expected Loss for x amount bet by multiplying:

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(House Edge Expressed as Decimal) * (Amount Bet) = Expected Loss
And, after you do that, add a quarter. After adding the quarter to the Expected Loss, you can then do:
(Expected Loss)/(Amount Bet) = New House Edge
Okay, so let's say it's eight-deck, dealer Hits S17, DAS, Double Anything, Resplit to Four Hands, No RSA, No HSA, No Surrender, Blackjack Pays 6:5
These rules yield a House Edge of 2.00291% with Optimal Play, so the expected loss on a $1.00 bet is obviously $0.0200291. If you add that quarter ante, the expected loss is $0.2700291 and the House Edge is 27.00291%.
If you bet $3 and must still pay the ante:
.0200291 * 3 = $0.0600873 Expected Loss
Add in the quarter, and it is $0.3100873, which means:Foxwoods
.3100873/3 = .1033624333~ or a 10.33624333~% House Edge
Vultures can't be choosers.
BleedingChipsSlowly
Thanks Mission146! Your logic is easy to follow. Makes me feel like I should have kicked the problem around for a few days to see if I could have come up with something on my own. Accounting for the ante factor was throwing me. Most of the other variations can be addressed with the Wizard's calculator, I think.
“You don’t bring a bone saw to a negotiation.” - Robert Jordan, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia
Mission146
You're welcome!
sc15
$1 blackjack (with a fee) is basically buying a movie ticket.
You bring $20 to the table, and spend an hour or 2 having drinks and watching cards come out, and that's it. You won't win.
AxelWolf
I don't like the free drinks argument because you should be tipping. If you are unwilling to pony up $80 more to cut down an extra 25% then obviously $1 is significant. (call them cheap drinks) . But thats not the only reason. You can get cheap drink service playing 1 penny at a time on something or a .25 BJ machine.

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The question is.... are you willing to toss a quarter in the trash evry few minutes for entertainment? That's really what you are doing for the privilege of usiusing real cards and real chips to geg more hands. If you cant muster up $100 buy in to hit the $5 level instead. I'm thinking you probably shouldn't be playing In the casino.

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If its just a matter of just not wanting to risk the money I say find a .5/ .25 BJ machine or nickel VP machine. You can play as slow or fast as you want.
ploppys can do as they wish with their own money and no one should berate them(without them we wouldn't have casino's) but if you have any influence in guiding someone on a path, I say discurrage them from commission BJ.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
BleedingChipsSlowly

ploppys can do as they wish with their own money and no one should berate them(without them we wouldn't have casino's) but if you have any influence in guiding someone on a path, I say discourage them from commission BJ.

I agree, but still feel $1 BJ with ante might be a worthwhile introductory experience for a novice, something easier to 'sell.' When suggesting a 10-hand session just to give it a try the possibility of losing [ignoring possible DD/splits] $12.50 would be far more acceptable than $50 or $100.
Tip of the hat again to Mission146 for his insight in calculating the effect of an ante on house edge. Based on what I learned from him, here's a table I came up with for Foxwoods' $1-wager/25-cent-ante game:
Here's that data in graphic form:
Clearly the game sucks big time. For what it's worth, kicking up the wager to $3 lowers the HE to slot level. Whoopie!
Thanks to all for comments. I have me answer to the question 'HOW bad is $1 BJ?' At least for the game at Foxwoods.
“You don’t bring a bone saw to a negotiation.” - Robert Jordan, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia
BleedingChipsSlowly
BTW, the cell formula could have been expressed as =B$1+B$2/D2, so the house edge is increased by the ante divided by the wager. That's just a simpler way to state the effect of the ante on the house edge. Doesn't reduce the suckage one iota.
“You don’t bring a bone saw to a negotiation.” - Robert Jordan, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia